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GvS Process Part I by Tabnir GvS Process Part I by Tabnir
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I do get a few requests for process/walkthroughs; normally I just paint on a single layer, or if I do use a few I constantly flatten and forget to do screencaps along the way. I ended working on GvS in all its 70-something layers of lulz to make this.

I suppose it counts as a tutorial, but I'm really not trying to teach anything. If anything, this ought to be a deterrent! I'm a clumsy painter and I'm sure none of you want to go through such a convoluted process.

As for tools: Just a brush and eraser. No filters, no smudge/blur etc.
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Marinau Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
awesomeee *-*
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icando87 Featured By Owner May 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just want to say "WOW".
Thank you for sharing. :)

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Klaustrophil Featured By Owner May 14, 2012
This is helpful - thanks for sharing your process Tabnir. But let me ask me one question: Your linework/sketch (panel 1-4) is in your workflow more an aid to orientation, yes? You don`t intend to keep the linework intact, yes? Those questions are maybe naive but I`m new into digital painting and I`ve been painting either with intact linework or without relying on lines. I am going to simulate your technicc (but not copying) and I`m very thankful for the effort you put into this tutorial man. Keep up the good work - your progress is inspiring and I will reach your skills one day.
greetings
klaus
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner May 14, 2012   Digital Artist
Yeah that's pretty much it.
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Mahico Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2012
I'm shocked man - u are the best!!!
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therealklausio Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2012
very impressive. Do you sketch digital or with pencils?
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012   Digital Artist
I like sketching with pencil more.
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LordDonovan Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Always nice to see some process, especially when it's as much the creative process as the technical.

If you don't mind though, I have one kinda technical question. Starting from panel 3, the original sketch lines on Spectre get more and more obscured and are pretty much gone by panel 7. Especially in panel 5, it looks like you may have been painting over them. So my question is, what did you do to the original sketch layer? I've seen some process videos/explanations before where it also seems like the sketch layer might have gotten merged down at some point instead of floating over it all, and I gotta figure out this mystery once and for all.
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Tabnir Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2011   Digital Artist
It's more about the requirements of the piece; ex., you really don't want to flatten onto a scan if you need to paint something with a transparent bg. Beyond that it really doesn't matter what you do since the final image will always be flat, so just do whatever fits into your workflow.

I usually flatten to keep things simple, but for this one I didn't flatten anything because I needed to preserve the different stages.
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LordDonovan Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
So if you didn't merge the line layer, you were gradually covering it up while keeping it separate? Personally, whether I use lines or not in the final image, the most I mess with them in the coloring stage is moving stuff or turning the whole layer on and off to check things. So I don't quite understand why it looks like you were slowly obscuring them bit by bit in those earlier steps, especially if they were still sitting on a separate layer from the coloring. The sketch lines look like they're getting painted over along with everything else on the color layer. By panel 7 it looks like the only lines left are the ones on Spectre's head and they look like they're a part of the colors from then on.

Sorry if I sound obsessed about this, but getting that more... I dunno, organic integration of lines into digital pieces is what's especially on by mind lately. So that's why I'm kinda ridiculously interested in exactly how the use of the sketch layer progressed here.
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2011   Digital Artist
If you're going for a specific look just follow your intuition. You're right on the money about painting over, as I am literally painting it over. Painting under the linework is only to set the general tone of the painting, but after that I don't think of lines as any different from paint blocks. I just paint over everything to get the look I want.

Er does that answer your question?
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:iconlorddonovan:
LordDonovan Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I think so, but just to be totally clear here, you're saying you did eventually paint over the sketch layer just like everything else?
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2011   Digital Artist
Yeah. The sketch was nothing more than a compositional aid.
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:iconlorddonovan:
LordDonovan Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Alright, cool. Like I said, I've just been really interested in the ways people integrate lines and sketching into the overall paintings in ways that feel more organic than a super crisp set of lines that were obviously just sitting on top of the color layer the whole time. (Not to say there's anything so wrong with that, but I want to get closer to that less ultra-crisp real media feel again.) And sometimes I see process shots like yours where it looks like the person goes from painting under the lines to painting on top of them along with everything else, but no one ever seems to explicitly mention that particular part of the process. So I really appreciate that you took the time to make that painfully clear for me.
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Dragonnick741 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011  Student Digital Artist
what brush?? can u share please
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bookpoint Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2011
AWEsome!!! IT'S SO HELPFUL!!
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:iconfahad-naeem:
Fahad-Naeem Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're a genius!
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PoetryMan1 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2011  Student Filmographer
Nice man!

some things to think about.. I'll check this reference later. keep up the good work!
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Portosilva Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2011  Student General Artist
Excellent work!
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KingJoJohn Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
...and THAT is the solid truth!
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ninja17pen Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2011  Student
Thanks, helpful Tutorial.
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expLorer321 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2010  Student
Wow, beautiful work!
I hope you don't mind if I ask some questions! I'm just a 19 year old kid just getting into digital painting (yet am practiced in composition and design) and have photoshop and a wacom tablet yet haven't really gotten into it because I feel lost in experimenting. First off, to clear up some frustration in attempt to paint in pshp, do you use a wacom pen/stylus or a wacom airbrush? Second, what settings do you recommend when painting? Third, what windows do you recommend (preferably the windows you use are the ones I'm after (I idolize your work...haha). Fourth, whatever advice you are willing to give, will you please give (a bit redundant, I know)?
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Tabnir Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2010   Digital Artist
1) I use the thing that came with the tablet.
2) Can't think of anything specific, if I need opaque I make it opaque and so on. I'm pretty lazy so I stick with mostly default stuff. I do change the shortcut keys so they're closer together, though.
3) I always keep open the navigator, layers, and history trays. I also use a paint mixer tray plugin I found with Google.
4) Paint and move on. Keep moving, but finish what you start, even if it's a hasty closure.

Hope to see some of your works soon.
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expLorer321 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010  Student
Wow, thanks for replying. I almost assumed you wouldn't as most people wouldn't reply. Thanks for the tips as they do guide me in the right direction. Regarding the paint mixer, would you be able to link me to the site which offers it? I have CS4 but not CS5. CS5 I know comes with a handy paint mixer but I think you were saying that I can actually download a plug in for CS4. I've looked for it but none turn up. Would you be able to link the site to me (the swatches and gradient color pad are nice but they can be difficult to use when wanting a more similar color, which is what the color blender could be of use)? Again, thanks a ton.

I will have my charcoal pieces up once I get my scanner. :D
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010   Digital Artist
Nah, the plugin is just the default style color picker except you don't have to doubletap the colors anymore.

[link] <-- readme has credits I think.
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expLorer321 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2010  Student
Thanks, I was actually looking for something like this, something that has all the colors-in-one-showing-pallet.
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vocaltaffy Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Your work's like "Bubble Yum- keep it poppin'!"
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010   Digital Artist
XD I like that.
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nekrosith Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome
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:iconryanoir:
ryanoir Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
love the dynamics in this man, thanks for sharing :)
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Jaevulen Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2010
This is Great! I love it when good artists make tutorials or processes. Really appreciate it!
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:icon3ihard:
3ihard Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2010   Digital Artist
nice but unfinished
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Urartskillz7 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2010   Traditional Artist
Very cool!! thanx so much for this!
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Izene Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome thought progress!
I have a question though, you said that you didn' use smudge/blur then how did you make that "Blurry" effect on the background on the last set of panels, on the very left. :)
Thanks :hug:
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:icontabnir:
Tabnir Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2010   Digital Artist
Used a dual brush for that yucky blurry look X(
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Izene Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh!Haha thanks!
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dizzcat Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome!
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